Chords on upbeats and anticipations

[Sharon]

Is there a way to indicate chords falling on the upbeat - or even just a curved line showing them anticipated prior to a beat? I'm more interested in being able to show a chord chart that indicates this to a live musician, than necessarily having the Player play them.

Apologies if this is already covered somewhere, I haven't been able to find it.

Many thanks,

Sharon

 

[dflat]

The new emojis now used in the latest OSs do not seem to include eighth notes etc. which could have been used in the past. You could use a text character or letter for your own use.
(Be aware, currently many emoticons will not appear in songs when you tap them.)

 

[DaleMac]

I've posted these before but here are some text characters I find occasion to use, including some curved lines:

♩ ♪ ♫ ♬ ♭ ♮ ♯ △ ▵ › ≻ ＞ ● • ‿ ⁀ ⁔ ┏ 3 ┓ ┗ 3 ┛ ⌈ 3 ⌉ ⌊ 3 ⌋

 

[nimbleswitch]

It appears that at least the sharp and flat characters no longer work in Text. Not on my iPhone 5 anyway. I see nothing in any Text in which they are included.

 

[Sharon]

I wonder if a way around this would be;

1. inclusion of 8/8 as a time signature (stay with me here...) and
2. inclusion of the option of a time signature being invisible when the chart is printed or viewed...

This would provide the option of including chords on any of the 8 eighth notes that appear in the bar, (which would be equivalent to all the beats and all the half beats). The invisible time signature would mean a musician reading the chart would not be confused by the workaround. You could put slash marks in the text field to indicate where the quarter notes fall for clarity if need be.

Apologies if I'm asking for something requiring fiendishly difficult programming. In theory do you think it could work?

 

[Sharon]

Many thanks DaleMac

I have experimented with using the symbols below (the rest symbols seem to show as squares here rather than the correct symbols) and they cause the file to crash when I open it from Drop box on my Ipad. (Error message; "The file could not be opened"). Not all the time, but far too often to consider the files useable.

Are there any rest symbols that work?


♩�� ♪ �� �� �� ♫

 

[DaleMac]

I'm still running iOS 6.1 on my old iPod, so I don't know which symbols currently work. Even so, I use them very infrequently and just as personal reminders - iRP was never designed to be a detailed scoring program.

 

[Zacworld]

Chords on upbeats PLEASE

I love this app. I use it extensively both for my private teaching and for myself to practice with, and I regularly recommend it to my jazz improv students. More than anything else the one feature that's missing that I really need is the ability to put chords on upbeats. As a teacher it would really help to have this feature so I can write out and listen to jazz standards with syncopated chords correctly (for instance Stolen Moments by Oliver Nelson). I did read about the clever hack one user discovered by creating a 3/4 bar and adding an extra space followed by a 5/4 bar, and it does work but only for very limited use. A fully functional chord syncopation feature is really needed and I daresay overdue. You have done great work by creating this much-needed app, and by the way I really like the blues styles you added and I am using them quite a bit. Thank you for your consideration.

 

[Robertkoa]

I love this app. I use it extensively both for my private teaching and for myself to practice with, and I regularly recommend it to my jazz improv students. More than anything else the one feature that's missing that I really need is the ability to put chords on upbeats. As a teacher it would really help to have this feature so I can write out and listen to jazz standards with syncopated chords correctly (for instance Stolen Moments by Oliver Nelson). I did read about the clever hack one user discovered by creating a 3/4 bar and adding an extra space followed by a 5/4 bar, and it does work but only for very limited use. A fully functional chord syncopation feature is really needed and I daresay overdue. You have done great work by creating this much-needed app, and by the way I really like the blues styles you added and I am using them quite a bit. Thank you for your consideration.

I agree with requesting Chords on upbeats and finer resolution for chord Placement for Syncopation and more complex harmonic Rhythms.

I requested this on the ' Request Survey ' with a possible workaround for Programmers which
could be the USER using a Double Time Tempo and placing the Chords in Half Time and some way to AUTOMATICALLY cause the Drums
and Basslines to PLAY in HALF TIME .
This MAY prevent the Software Engineers from Having to re-write a lot of Code and make it easier to get this Function.

8/8 or 8/16 Time Signature is another way as said.

A third way without much interference with existing use would be an 'exception ' where a
False Barline goes right through the Chord ( I have done this but it has no effect but sometimes it seems to ).

Placing the 'false barline ' through the chord symbol could cause it to play on the 8th note in other words.

A paid added feature with finer and snycopated resolution would be Great IMO.

 

[CyrilleB]

Here are the glyphs that I use the most (on Android):
ን (¼ note rest)
ฯ (⅛ note rest)
ᮺ (sixteenth note rest)
━ (½ or whole note rest)
ᚨ (sixteenth note)
◇ (whole note)
◜³◝◟³◞ (triplet bracket)
♩.♪♫♬ (misc. notes)
︵︶ (ties)
Feel free to copy and paste

 

[Lamyflute1]

Adding anticipations to chording

We should be able to add the > sign to anticipate that chord to give it a more natural playback. The > would go under the chord you want anticipated. It will automatically take a fourth of the beat quality before it.

 

[CyrilleB]

I second that. Would be a great feature!

 

[CyrilleB]

A marker over (or below) the chords could indicate if a chord should be played on a downbeat or pushed (for ex: > for eighth note push, » for sixteenth notes push and ^ to indicate a chord has to be played on a downbeat). It shouldn't be too difficult for the player to process those markers

 

[paulreisler]

anticipations

I do love irealpro, but there is one feature that would make my life a lot easier and that is having a symbol for anticipations. Right now i use the < symbol and then move it above the chord. It is a real pain in a song that has many anticipations which much of my music has. Thanks for the great program which has really helped organize my charts for a couple thousand of my original songs. Still working on getting all my old music in there.

 

[BrianHayesMusic]

Chords on up Beats (especially for playback)​

I, of course, did a search on this topic before posting. One person suggested using 8-8 time which I don't see an option for and I was unable to find any other workarounds.

Not having chords come in on upbeats is such a major ball drop, it's kind of unbelievable. I mean this app is so great, as it is, and if you only allowed the one basic thing that's constantly happening in music, you'd take over the world. My method book 1, which I published last year, is used in conjunction with iReal Pro as the app is able to provide the backing tracks for every exercise I put in my method. For method book 2, which i'll be publishing this year and which deals with syncopated rhythms, I have to invite my readers NOT to use iReal. How ridiculous is that? There are backing tracks for so many songs on here, but if I wanted to create a backing track for Highway to Hell by AC/DC, which has almost every chord coming in on the upbeat, I couldn't do it. How insane is that, really? If this one thing were fixed, there'd be no limitations and backing tracks could be available for every song that exists. This should be a top priority fix. If there are any workarounds or if I'm missing something, please let me know because this is extremely ridiculous.

 

[pdxdjazz]

Hi Brian
iRp doesn’t currently PTO vide an easy way to designate when to push, anticipate or syncopate.

In some styles, the algorithm will play a chord off the beat but as a transcriber, composer, player we can’t exercise control.

There is a complex, inelegant way to mix time signatures to force upbeat chords.

Thank you for adding to the discussion on this topic.

)BOB

 

[BklynGeno]

I've posted these before but here are some text characters I find occasion to use, including some curved lines:

♩ ♪ ♫ ♬ ♭ ♮ ♯ △ ▵ › ≻ ＞ ● • ‿ ⁀ ⁔ ┏ 3 ┓ ┗ 3 ┛ ⌈ 3 ⌉ ⌊ 3 ⌋

Is there anyway to input those characters into the text keyboard?

 

[pdxdjazz]

Users have tried those and other Unicode font sets.
Usually entered using the text (abc) function in the editor using copy/paste.
I know of no way to add them (or others) to the text keyboard in the editor.
Some characters may interfere with the operation of the player.
Different devices and operating systems display these attempts at rhythmic notation differently (or not at all) so while your charts may work for you, they may not work satisfactorily for other users.

I know it’s been an important consideration for features and changes to the apps to be compatible across platforms and devices.

Thanks for sharing
)BOB