Wrong Key for song?

[visionm]

Hi so this is a bit confusing but I am using IRealPro while practicing Autumn Leaves. When I first went to play the song with the backtrack something just sounded off. After a bit of time I realized it was the key. At first I thought I may be just playing in the wrong key so I checked the circle of fifths (I play the alto clarinet, an E flat instrument). So as far as I could tell I was playing in the correct key. I am playing the song in E and so that should mean that if the app plays in G we will be sounding good.

Sorry but things get more confusing here. So with the song set to G (default) things sound off. I double checked all the settings that I could possibly find to be sure that there was nothing else affecting this. The transposing instrument is set to c and the default instruments are being used. When I export this song to midi and open in Musescore I find the sheet music marked as being in the scale of Bflat. I played the score on Musescore and on the app to be sure that the sound was the same and sure enough they were playing in the same scale.

So in IReelPro I set the song to the key of E and once again exported and opened the midi file in Musescore to find that the written key is now G. Now when I play along with the app set to the key of E the song sounds right.

I attached the two midi files in the zip if for some reason that would help.
They are name according to the IRealPro setting with witch they were exported.

any ideas about what is going on here?

 

[pdxdjazz]

The transposing instrument is set to c

The transposing instrument is set to c = normal
Player plays and displays chords in the "concert" key (as shown by the song transpose setting)

Example: Autumn Leaves in E- (key sig = 1#) some might also call it G.

Autumn Leaves - Joseph Kosma


With transposing instrument set to Eb (your instrument) the chords are displayed a minor third lower than concert key.
The player still plays in concert key.
Transposing instrument setting causes the app to automatically display ALL the charts in your library as indicated fo your instrument's setting.

If you also use the song transpose setting to change the chart, BOTH the chords displayed AND the player's key will be changed.

https://technimo.helpshift.com/a/ireal-pro/?s=transposition&f=transposing-instrument&l=en

)BOB

Attachments:
1. The transposing instrument is set to c = normal
Player plays and displays chords in the "concert" key (as shown by the song transpose setting)

2. transposing instrument set to Eb. Song's concert key E- is unchanged

 

[pdxdjazz]

If the default key is G- (key sig 2b) some might also say Bb

 

[visionm]

oh does that - mean its a minor key?

 

[visionm]

I really just want the app to play in the key that it says that it is in.

 

[visionm]

okay I see now that is what it is. Thanks obviously I was just confused about what key it was playing in.

 

[pdxdjazz]

oh does that - mean its a minor key?

Yes, iReal pro uses the hyphen/minus-sign "-" to indicate minor chord and key names.
)BOB

 

[pdxdjazz]

I really just want the app to play in the key that it says that it is in.

Just like all of us..

Happy you got it sorted out.
)BOB

 

[enap66]

Ya all are making it more complicated than it needs to be. He’s correct, the chords don’t match. Period. It used to work fine, as of late they don’t conform with the proper key. Programming issue. Surprised they haven’t fixed it yet.

 

[pdxdjazz]

Ya all are making it more complicated than it needs to be. He’s correct, the chords don’t match. Period. It used to work fine, as of late they don’t conform with the proper key. Programming issue. Surprised they haven’t fixed it yet.

If there’s a specific chart you are having trouble with, post it and politely ask for help.
If you just want to whine, go back to yo mamma’s house.

 

[dflat]

... the chords don’t match. Period. It used to work fine, as of late they don’t conform with the proper key....

Have you inadvertently changed the global key (wind instruments). If you do not play a wind instrument, change to default C for Concert key. Or change it to your wind instrument's transposing key as it might be set to another.
https://technimo.helpshift.com/hc/en/3-ireal-pro/faq/60-transposing-instrument/?p=android