aantetomaso
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I modified the original version of this song and inserted the solo section. Enjoy.
Stolen Moments - Oliver Nelson
Stolen Moments - Oliver Nelson
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Stolen Moments - Oliver Nelson
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Stolen Moments (with solo) - Oliver Nelson
Stolen Moments - Oliver Nelson, from the Blues and the Abstract Truth album.
A blues solo part as well as the intro and outro parts. The solo part is played as simple minor blues.
Stolen Moments (with minor blues solo) - Oliver Nelson
Stolen Moments - Oliver Nelson, from the Blues and the Abstract Truth album.
A blues solo part as well as the intro and outro parts. The solo part is played as simple minor blues.
Stolen Moments (with minor blues solo) - Oliver Nelson
Keith88
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This is a really nice piece of work. I made a few changes on my copy which you should consider. Firstly, because I use Swing Two/Four style, I removed your section B, C, and D markings, and changed the marking solo section to B. In this way, the head is played in "two" and the solo in "four" to resemble the Oliver Nelson version. Secondly, I put a "4x" in the text field at the beginning of the solo so that I could take four choruses. Otherwise, I left your arrangement alone. Thanks for posting this, a great tune from a classic album.
BTW: what is the significance of "r - i - t" at the bottom of the chart?
BTW: what is the significance of "r - i - t" at the bottom of the chart?
Thank you. Section A and B with Swing Two/Four is really a great idea. So, I tried it. It works for the first time but the second A section didn't come back with Swing Two feel but still Four. I don't know why.
Yes, I intended r-i-t as ritardando. I wanted to spread the mark to cover bigger part of the bar (but no effect on the player anyway).
Oh, and I didn't know "4x" text takes effect at the beginning of a repeat section -- I thought it should be at the end but it works as well.
Yes, I intended r-i-t as ritardando. I wanted to spread the mark to cover bigger part of the bar (but no effect on the player anyway).
Oh, and I didn't know "4x" text takes effect at the beginning of a repeat section -- I thought it should be at the end but it works as well.
Keith88
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Working version with Swing Two/Four
Shin1ro: I remember when I edited your version that I had the same problem with the second A. I remember that I changed something to get it to work but I can't remember what I did! I tried again to figure out the fix but I can't. Below, I've posted my working version and I invite one of the developers or moderators to figure out my fix. I believe it has something to do with bar lines; the player seems to need correct barring to be able to differentiate sections. In any case, I'm glad you liked my suggestion about using Swing Two/Four.
Stolen Moments (with minor blues solo) - Oliver Nelson
Shin1ro: I remember when I edited your version that I had the same problem with the second A. I remember that I changed something to get it to work but I can't remember what I did! I tried again to figure out the fix but I can't. Below, I've posted my working version and I invite one of the developers or moderators to figure out my fix. I believe it has something to do with bar lines; the player seems to need correct barring to be able to differentiate sections. In any case, I'm glad you liked my suggestion about using Swing Two/Four.
Stolen Moments (with minor blues solo) - Oliver Nelson
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The player feature doesn't alter the set tempo for rirtardondo/fermata etc. unlike a live ensemble there are no visual cues between players as to when and how much to keep together. I also suspect it's technically complicated to alter the "clock".
Player styles like swing/Latin and swing two/four are designed to alter only the first and the final repeat of the form.
When the player is set to play the form 3 or more times, the middle repeats are played "straight".
You can trick the player into playing more repeats of the form with D.C., D.S. and repeat brackets.
As you discovered, instructions for multiple repeats eg. 4x are followed by the player when placed anywhere inside the brackets.
The player needs to see a double-bar sign in order to know when marked sections are concluded.
Have you noticed what effect a double-bar has on the drums?
)BOB
Player styles like swing/Latin and swing two/four are designed to alter only the first and the final repeat of the form.
When the player is set to play the form 3 or more times, the middle repeats are played "straight".
You can trick the player into playing more repeats of the form with D.C., D.S. and repeat brackets.
As you discovered, instructions for multiple repeats eg. 4x are followed by the player when placed anywhere inside the brackets.
The player needs to see a double-bar sign in order to know when marked sections are concluded.
Have you noticed what effect a double-bar has on the drums?
)BOB
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Keith88
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There you go, Bob! The issue is that the chart must be played twice and twice only for the opening bars to be played in two. I had some trouble with other charts and indeed, I found that there must be double bar lines for the player to recognize the different sections of the tune. I think that shin1ro's approach to writing the chart with repeat brackets and a coda is really clever and makes the chart work well with the player. I'm glad I could make a small contribution. This is what playing jazz is like, everyone making his contribution to the overall success of the music.
No--I couldn't tell what the effect of the double bar is on the drums, other than changing from two to four.
No--I couldn't tell what the effect of the double bar is on the drums, other than changing from two to four.
Perhaps the change in style hid the effect. I've found a double-bar often results in a drum-fill.
Blues - (drum fill example) - Exercise
)BOB
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Dzjang
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Shortbeard
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Stolen Moments - Oliver Nelson (Barry Arr.)
engelbach
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And yet another version of Stolen Moments.
This one tries to follow the rhythm and the bass line of the original.
The chords above the staff are not Alternate Chords. They are written that way so that no bass note sounds when you play them.
Stolen Moments-Rev JE 1 - Oliver Nelson
Cheers,
Jer
This one tries to follow the rhythm and the bass line of the original.
The chords above the staff are not Alternate Chords. They are written that way so that no bass note sounds when you play them.
Stolen Moments-Rev JE 1 - Oliver Nelson
Cheers,
Jer
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minor blues solo
Stolen Moments (with minor blues solo) (B1-212) - Oliver Nelson
Stolen Moments (with minor blues solo) (B1-212) - Oliver Nelson
reggoboy
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Stolen Moments with solo
i added the solo section and fixed the repeats.
Stolen Moments - Oliver Nelson
i added the solo section and fixed the repeats.
Stolen Moments - Oliver Nelson
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engelbach
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EDIT: I've reposted this from 2017 with some changes. My original did not indicate that the B section is for the C minor blues solos.
And yet another version of Stolen Moments.
This one tries to follow the rhythm and the bass line of the original.
The chords above the staff are not Alternate Chords. They are written that way so that no bass note sounds when you play them.
Stolen Moments-Rev JE 1 - Oliver Nelson
Cheers,
Jer
And yet another version of Stolen Moments.
This one tries to follow the rhythm and the bass line of the original.
The chords above the staff are not Alternate Chords. They are written that way so that no bass note sounds when you play them.
Stolen Moments-Rev JE 1 - Oliver Nelson
Cheers,
Jer
