Speak No Evil - Wayne Shorter

Stefanglatt,

Just a word of caution. Unfortunately, some of the changes to Speak No Evil in the old Real Book One are incorrect.

The publishers of that book apparently "normalized" the changes to bars 9-10 to conform to a conventional circle of fifths pattern, as Em - A7 - Dm - G7.

But the correct changes can be found in Chuck Sher's New Real Book One, in my chart above, and in the iReal Pro Jazz 1300 Standards collection: Em - Cm - Dm - Bbm.

We can always count on Wayne Shorter to break with convention ...

Cheers,
Jer
 
Stefanglatt,

Just a word of caution. Unfortunately, some of the changes to Speak No Evil in the old Real Book One are incorrect.

The publishers of that book apparently "normalized" the changes to bars 9-10 to conform to a conventional circle of fifths pattern, as Em - A7 - Dm - G7.

But the correct changes can be found in Chuck Sher's New Real Book One, in my chart above, and in the iReal Pro Jazz 1300 Standards collection: Em - Cm - Dm - Bbm.

We can always count on Wayne Shorter to break with convention ...

Cheers,
Jer

Thanks Jer,
I really appreciate your choice to use "conventional" and "normalized" rather than *incorrect* or *wrong*.

Jazz is often defined by playing *different* changes than may be expected.
Everyone has their own ears and is entitled to their own preferences in musical expression.

Your submissions are always worthwhile.
:))BOB
 
Thanks, Bob.

Perhaps instead of saying "incorrect" I should have said "not the changes Wayne Shorter plays."

The makers of the old illegal Real Books did take liberties with the changes to a number of songs. There's no way to know if they deliberately did it to be creative, or just made mistakes in transcribing from recordings.

Cheers,
Jer
 
Thanks, Bob.

Perhaps instead of saying "incorrect" I should have said "not the changes Wayne Shorter plays."

The makers of the old illegal Real Books did take liberties with the changes to a number of songs. There's no way to know if they deliberately did it to be creative, or just made mistakes in transcribing from recordings.

Cheers,
Jer

While I don't have specific examples to share with you, I recall thinking that I've noticed artists performing songs they wrote(!) differently (sometimes really differently) on different recordings. (Not to mention in different verses during the same performance)
I sure wouldn't label one as "wrong".

I prefer it when someone claims to present an "accurate transcription" and lists their source.

Ah, jazz...
:))BOB

PS
It's helpful when suggesting corrections to a posted chart that the edited chart is posted.
Easy for the original poster to download, play and compare.
Also, instead of each additional user needing to make the edits, they can simply download the "better" chart (if they trust you...)
(I know do)
 
While I don't have specific examples to share with you, I recall thinking that I've noticed artists performing songs they wrote(!) differently (sometimes really differently) on different recordings. (Not to mention in different verses during the same performance)
I sure wouldn't label one as "wrong".

I prefer it when someone claims to present an "accurate transcription" and lists their source.

Ah, jazz...
:))BOB

PS
It's helpful when suggesting corrections to a posted chart that the edited chart is posted.
Easy for the original poster to download, play and compare.
Also, instead of each additional user needing to make the edits, they can simply download the "better" chart (if they trust you...)
(I know do)
Agree.

Which is why I referred to specific measures and my own chart and the chart in Jazz 1300 Standards.

You also make a good point: The most disputed tune I know of for changes, at least in the last few bars, is Herbie Hancock's Dolphin Dance. Almost every source has different changes. And a trombonist who used to post on the All About Jazz Forum played the tune with Herbie, and his changes were just as controversial.

Sidenote: After 20 years, the All About Jazz Forum has shut down. I had been a member and active participant since 2005.

Cheers,
Jer
 
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