ireal pro how to place a rest (Silence) ?

[Algado]

Autumn Leaves : I tried to place chords wit "Silence" (for solo parts)

How to set a musical measure without chords, with or without battery ?

The system do not understand

Exemple :

I tried this but that work only once, but for the second chord, that's do not work. First chord continue, whether or not I place the blue marker...

The Screen copy below explai what I'm trying to do but with no succes...
By the way, note the yellow about text

 

[pdxdjazz]

As you discovered, empty (blank) measures cause problems for the player feature.

Here is how the Break (tacet) and N.C. (No Chord) is used to create silence (no chord, no drums) in current versions of iReal pro.

https://technimo.helpshift.com/hc/en/3-ireal-pro/faq/101-n-c-symbol-break/?p=ios

To continue from a previous measure and delay a chord change to later in a measure, slash(s) must be added to the first space(s).

https://technimo.helpshift.com/hc/en/3-ireal-pro/faq/102-chord-spacing-in-the-editor/?p=ios

Bar Repeat Signs, Slash, N-C- - Example - Example

It appears you were trying to include the bar with pick-up notes as the first measure of your chart. Pick-up notes are often implied in iRp charts as they actually occur in the final bar of the repeated section (sec A1, bar 8) or last measure of the repeated form.

I added a 1 bar intro to help you with the initial pick-up notes.
Count: 1,2,3,4|1 before the intro which starts on that last 1 with the intro’s pick-up notes on the following 2,3,4.

https://forums.irealpro.com/threads/Pick-Up-Notes-(was-AutumnLeaves)&p=34295.13974/#post-34295

This example chart is probably closer to what you had in mind.

Autumn Leaves (w\hits) - Joseph Kosma


As you discovered, the Oval Marker (blue mark) has an entirely different purpose.

https://technimo.helpshift.com/hc/e...al-symbol-in-the-editor-invisible-root/?p=ios

The system I do not understand

Clearly.

Please review and explore everything that hides behind the question-mark (?) in a circle at the top of most any app page.

As more features and functions have been included in iReal pro, there is a lot more to learn.

)BOB

 

[Algado]

Thanks to work on Sunday

Unfortunately, your exemple suggest to forget the rules "One bar 4:4 is four times one time" :S

Couldn't be possible to have a specific "One time" pause or "one time" silence ? For a chord progression, it is probably the smalest measure we need ?

In addition: the NC symbol should be more "symbolic", it takes up too much space...

 

[pdxdjazz]

Thanks to work on Sunday

Unfortunately, your exemple suggest to forget the rules "One bar 4:4 is four times one time" :S

Couldn't be possible to have a specific "One time" pause or "one time" silence ? For a chord progression, it is probably the smalest measure we need ?

In addition: the NC symbol should be more "symbolic", it takes up too much space...

Happy to help you, you are most welcome.
Some new iReal pro users can find it daunting.
)BOB

https://forums.irealpro.com/threads/Ipad-version-is-better-but&p=71793.27953/#post-71793

 

[Algado]

Thanks, works well, but... no way to read :blush:

Couldn't the symbol be less expansive? Or symply hidden ?
A colored sign or the "Silence" symbol like on musical scores?

HTML : &#119101

A simple option : include the "h" for "Hidden" coult offer a lot of possibility...:blush:

 

[pdxdjazz]

S and N (Small/Normal chord-font size)
https://forums.irealpro.com/threads/S-amp-N-over-chords-(small-normal-chord-font).8841/

Use smaller chords
m7 = -7
Δ7 = Δ
ø 7 = ø

or extend the length of the problem measure (8 spaces instead of 4) the player still won’t play more than 4 entries.

Search “crowded” or “overlapping” for more discussion.

Sometimes, I’ll use a simple chord for the player and write the extended chord as an alternate above for the musician.
https://technimo.helpshift.com/hc/e...ernate-chords-small-chords-above-staff/?p=ios

If the last part of an extended chord is illegible, I can repeat just that extended quality below the problem chord using text.

)BOB

 

[Algado]

S and N (Small/Normal chord-font size)
https://forums.irealpro.com/threads/S-amp-N-over-chords-(small-normal-chord-font).8841/

Use smaller chords
m7 = -7
Δ7 = Δ
ø 7 = ø

or extend the length of the problem measure (8 spaces instead of 4) the player still won’t play more than 4 entries.

Search “crowded” or “overlapping” for more discussion.

Sometimes, I’ll use a simple chord for the player and write the extended chord as an alternate above for the musician.
https://technimo.helpshift.com/hc/e...ernate-chords-small-chords-above-staff/?p=ios

If the last part of an extended chord is illegible, I can repeat just that extended quality below the problem chord using text.

)BOB

The problem is the "NC", not the chords...
Do you have a solution to display a smaller "NC" ?

 

[pdxdjazz]

NC responds to the S and N font size selection (the currently available choices)

Since many users have small screens, some users who want more complex charts may have to choose between having:
PLAYER CHARTS or READER CHARTS
https://forums.irealpro.com/threads/BEGINNERS-start-here&p=25854.2157/#post-25854

)BOB

 

[Algado]

NC responds to the S and N font size selection (the currently available choices)

Since many users have small screens, some users who want more complex charts may have to choose between having:
PLAYER CHARTS or READER CHARTS
https://forums.irealpro.com/threads/BEGINNERS-start-here&p=25854.2157/#post-25854

)BOB

I tryed, no way to have ONLY a nc in small font or helse...
The solution was nevertheless attractive!

In all situations, the first is OK, the second isn't...

 

[pdxdjazz]

I tryed, no way to have ONLY a nc in small font

Open in the editor to view S and N placement

NC and S-N Font - Example


)BOB

 

[Algado]

OK, I found it :blush:

It's a bit better, but it's not really a good solution.
I hope it's temporary?
This makes reading difficult but not impossible.

Please: replace the NC with a silence symbol or make it invisible

 

[pdxdjazz]

Thank you for using iReal pro.

As you have discovered, the app works exactly as it was designed to function.

Many thousands of users find iReal pro to be helpful and of value in their musical lives.

I understand there may be a function(s) you wish worked differently.

Thank you for having taken your time to share your thoughts.

)BOB

 

[Algado]

Thank you for using iReal pro.

As you have discovered, the app works exactly as it was designed to function.

Many thousands of users find iReal pro to be helpful and of value in their musical lives.

I understand there may be a function(s) you wish worked differently.

Thank you for having taken your time to share your thoughts.

)BOB

"Many thousands of users find iReal pro to be helpful and of value in their musical lives."

I'd say : there is unfortunately no other solution... right now...

 

[dflat]

UPDATE: read this

https://technimo.helpshift.com/hc/en/3-ireal-pro/faq/101-n-c-symbol-break/?p=all

And

https://forums.irealpro.com/threads/Mac-Update-VS-2020-12-New-Drum-Break&p=64037.25288/#post-64037

I'd say : there is unfortunately no other solution... right now...

The iReal Pro player engine is largely automatic and there are no ways to currently define rhythms or rests as you can with midi or notation (or DAW) programs.
However you can export the midi file into an appropriate program and edit as you wish.
You could try using 8 spaces for a measure, which puts a space in-between the NC and each chord alternates to make it clearer.