Feature requests

[nimbleswitch]

Woo Hoo!! A Sync button would be insanely great! Happy to know it's on a list. In the meantime, just to let folks know, I'm using two free app's to avoid the email transfer ordeal: DiskAid OSX on my iMac in conjunction with FileApp iOS on my iPod Touch. It only works one way (Mac to iPod) and still requires several steps even via USB, but it does work. And I don't have to worry about WiFi connections, email delays, etc.

Now, this sounds like a way to go, especially since I live in rural mountains where I have to go to town to get a wifi connection. I need to transfer from a Macbook to an iPhone, so that's a bit different. Thanks, DaleMac, I'll let you know how this works for me.

EDIT (about 15 minutes after posting the above): Wow, DaleMac, that was crazy easy. It's almost as if DiskAid and FileApp were invented to transfer iReal Pro files. The Help feature on my DiskAid does not work at all, i.e., absolutely nothing happens when you click on anything in there, but the DigiDNA support site had a brief explanation of how to get a file, in general, from DiskAid in Mac to FileApp in iPhone, and that could not have been simpler. Once I got the file into File App on my iPhone, I was stumped a bit as to how to get the file into iReal Pro for iOS7 from FileApp . . . until I just clicked on it and FileApp seemed to know that the file needed to go into iReal Pro, and presto. Now that I've done it once, I think a file transfer like this will take under a minute, for sure. And it looks like you can transfer whole PlayLists this way, too, perhaps. [FURTHER EDIT: Yep, I just transferred a 35-tune PlayList in under a minute. This is also a fast and easy way to make a copy of a PlayList in iReal Pro, which I think you still cannot do directly within iReal Pro.] This is going to save me beaucoup trips to the coffee house in town to use its wifi. Thanks for this great tip.

BTW, DaleMac, your DiskAid/FileApp trick does work both ways, and without Internet connection. Starting from your iPhone, you just use iReal Pro for iOS7 to send a tune using the Chord Chart>html feature. It automatically brings up FileApp as a possible destination, you drop it in a Downloads folder there and just retrieve it in DiskAid, using pretty much the same technique as going the other way. Works for whole Playlists, too.

 

[nimbleswitch]

I just fiddled around and figured out how to rename, but not copy playlists. So I guess I'm only half
an idiot [so at that rate it's a pretty good day for me! ]

If you're still interested in copying a PlayList and you have iRealPro installed on your Mac, too, try using DaleMac's tip in this thread. You can make a copy of a playlist by transferring the PlayList back and forth between your Mac and your iPhone using DiskAid in OSX and FileApp in iOS7. You just rename it on your computer's disk and then send it back. I just did one in under two minutes. You can go either way and it does not require an Internet connection, just a USB cable connection.

 

[DaleMac]

...Thanks for this great tip.

BTW, DaleMac, your DiskAid/FileApp trick does work both ways, and without Internet connection. Starting from your iPhone, you just use iReal Pro for iOS7 to send a tune using the Chord Chart>html feature. It automatically brings up FileApp as a possible destination, you drop it in a Downloads folder there and just retrieve it in DiskAid, using pretty much the same technique as going the other way. Works for whole Playlists, too.

You're welcome. And thanks for your tip too. I'll try that html transfer procedure... next year when I update to iRealPro

 

[pdxdjazz]

Re: a feature request (now deleted by author) to permit posting ”public domain” songs with melody and/or lyrics...

Some history: iReal book app was accused of violating copyright law, and Apple, not wanting to get involved, pulled the app and said,"you guys sort it out". While lawyers say you cant copyright a chord change(s), a small solo app developer can't afford to fight the big guys in court (even to win eventually). Hence, the introduction of iReal b, now Pro.
https://forums.irealpro.com/threads/iReal-Book-into-the-future-iReal-b-4-0.1559/

If members were to share complete "public domain" charts and someone asserted a copyright claim, it might cause a hassle for the iReal Pro developer.

So, I'm in favor of NOT pushing that envelope.
There are other notation apps available.
)BOB

 

[DaleMac]

Second that. And I can think of more useful features for iReal other than "cheesy pickup lines" and "rockin' poses" well worth the programmers' time. By all means, call your brother.

 

[dflat]

Jaydiem, although you have deleted your post with some additional ideas (thanks) I would like to comment on you asking for background images (or information) behind a chart as a possibility.
Although we do not support PDF import currently you can use multitasking, a PDF viewing app to do this. (Tablet is best because of the screen size.)
Software such as Photoshop, Illustrator, PDF or image software should be able to import the PDF or image format (jpg) exported from iReal Pro. Add extra information, lyrics, text etc. then export as a PDF (or jpg.)
For iPad, use forscore, unrealbook or similar to display your PDF and run iReal Pro with Settings>Background audio ON. (Android use MobileSheets app.)
Although you will have to run both apps at the same time and swap between them, some are doing this successfully. Here is a related thread:
https://forums.irealpro.com/threads/Multitasking-using-Player.1124/

Also you can by-pass iReal Pro as an option, render the audio and use one of the viewer apps (as above) and link the song chart with the audio file. This means you are only in the one app.

If you want more details on this, post back and someone should be able to help you.

 

[DaleMac]

If my reply was so rude that it made Jaydiem delete his post, I apologize. I do NOT want to discourage suggestions for improvements. If it helps fix a bug, or makes iReal simpler to use, or would be of general benefit to all, I have no gripe. But all too often (evidence this 35-page thread) requests are for specific features that would serve only a very small percentage of users. What makes iReal THE essential app (for me) is that it's inexpensive, doesn't take up a ridiculous amount of memory, and doesn't have a zillion functions I'll never need. This would no longer be the case if it tried to be all things to all people.

 

[Leaping]

I'm not sure if there is already an option for this, but I would like to be able to have the numbering system to stay based on the major diatonic key for many minor tunes. It makes much more sense in some situations, but not always (like a minor blues).
For example, to basically express the first section of Autumn Leaves can be a 2m-5-1-4-7ø-3(7)-6m, or it can be a 4m-b7(7)-b3-b6-2ø-5(7)-1m.
For many songs, having it the first way is much easier to follow and much clearer to understand theoretically. This wouldn't be true for all songs, though, so it would be nice to have the option to see tunes expressed either way.
At the moment I go in and change the key to the relative major in the songs I prefer to see that way, but that can cause confusion when sharing with other musicians and such.

Thanks for the wonderful app! Of course, if there already is a way to do this please let me know.

 

[dflat]

... I would like to be able to have the numbering system to stay based on the major diatonic key for many minor tunes. It makes much more sense in some situations,...

I know what you mean, the only way to do this is to duplicate and change the chords as you have suggested. There is no 'switch' in each song to do this automatically unfortunately. (Make sure you title it suitably so you know which version it is!?)

 

[Leaping]

Would it be possible to get an option to show the chords and the numbering at the same time? I use this app a lot when teaching and it plays largely into theory and song structure discussions. Being able to show the numbering as well as the chords would help students see the bigger picture instead of simply memorizing a random series of individual chords.

Let me know if there is a way to already do this...maybe I didn't notice something. I think it'd be an extremely useful option to encourage because many musicians who are intimidated by theory would very quickly recognize common patterns in all the songs they were playing if they had the numbers there as well. Maybe an option to have them in a smaller, italicized font directly below the chord names? They wouldn't even need to reiterate the chord quality, just the number would be needed. It would be a good transition for players wishing to be able to transpose better and such, too. I totally understand the other request I mentioned not being important enough to add the option, but in this case I would be worth it.

Thanks for any consideration. Let me know if there is some way to already do this, ok?

 

[dflat]

Would it be possible to get an option to show the chords and the numbering at the same time?
Let me know if there is some way to already do this, ok?

No this is not possible, it is either the chord letter or number. You could manually add the numbers as Text (move them above the chords).

 

[gemwand]

Congratulations on a well-thought out, easy to use, application.

My wish - I'd like to be able control playback more. Given rehearsal sections A, B, Etc, to specify ABAC for example. Also - and perhaps very much a minority interest - to control tempo for each section. This comes from Klezmer music where the tempo often ups dramatically as the piece progresses.

 

[pdxdjazz]

Tempo/style changes within a tune have been requested by others as well. The player-feature was originally added just as a practice tool. That some are using it in performance speaks to the developer's great work.
I agree that if the player could read rehearsal marks and then follow a text instruction for the form (like: AABCACA) that could be useful.
A welcome "feature" of this amazing app is it's simplicity. Finding the right balance between simplicity and advanced control is a challenge. Some will be overwhelmed while others are disappointed at perceived limitations.
A separate player control screen for each marked section of a song might be too much complexity for many.
Often better is the enemy of good.

Currently, style/tempo changes and complex forms/arrangements can be compiled by recording the various iReal bits you like using another device and editing them to a single track/mp3.

Thanks for posting your Klezmer thread.
)BOB

 

[nimbleswitch]

-Ritardando
-Rest Drummer

Thanks for a great app.

 

[Plastic]

Love to see option for guitar tablature..

 

[nimbleswitch]

I'd really appreciate the addition of a single-bar bar line and a double-bar bar line that only go half way down, which would keep them from obscuring chord symbol extensions while still looking like bar lines.

 

[Davecan]

I love this app, but would like to see the following, if possible...
1. Tempo: It would be great to change the tempo of each section. Lacking that, even a sort of "humanize" option, that randomly speeds up or slows down (very slightly), would be cool.
2. Ritard - as with the above, this would add greatly to the realism of the app.
3. Chord changes on "ands". I'm thinking that maybe the app could be altered to recognize 8 beats in 4/4 time (just as you can slim it down to 2 to save space). Then, when it read an 8 beat measure it would "know" that beat 1 was normal 1, beat 2 was really the "and" of one, beat 3 was beat 2, beat 4 was the and of beat 2, etc. And chord changes would occur wherever they were placed in the measure.

Thanks for listening.

 

[bassmaniac69]

I'd love to see the ability to have one ipad/tablet unit as a master controller and other tablets irealpro be controlled by that master unit unit (IE song choices/next song etc). OnSong has this ability to sync units together and one unit controls them all it but I really don't like that particular program and have managed to convince my band members in two bands to swap to irealpro, so this would be the icing on the cake!!

Also, when deleting a playlist you have the options to delete the playlist only or move all songs to the trash. Could you please, please, please have an option to confirm the move songs to the trash action when selected to stop accidentally doing this instead of deleting just the playlist OR could you move the buttons a lot further apart so my stupid sausage fingers don't hit the wrong option??

Cheers.

 

[nimbleswitch]

How about programming Playback to always start from the Intro mark--wherever it happens to be--IF there is an Intro mark present.

 

[bparham79]

First of all to the I Real Pro team, congratulations on developing an amazing piece of software! I Real Pro has revolutionized my practicing, teaching, and performing. I absolutely adore this program.

As for improvements, I would love to see three things:

1. Please add 8th notes. This would improve the software's compositional capabilities ten fold. I use I Real Pro for my private guitar lessons all the time, and I can't tell you how often I wish it had the ability to play 8th notes, especially when creating simple pentatonic groves.

2. Please add Roman Numerals a.k.a the Nashville Numbering System. There are so many things I love about the program, that I don't know where to start, but this is honestly the one decision perplexing my. Why did the I Real Pro team opt for the Arabic numbering system? I'm a music school graduate, a gigging musician, and a professional teacher, and I've never seen anyone use the Arabic numbering system on charts.

3. Please add punk, hard rock, and metal. I can't even imagine how guitar teachers around the country would flip to have this feature. Most young guitar students want to learn simple songs by Green Day, Eric Clapton, or Black Sabbath. I love the Rock style, but it doesn't really suffice for punk, hard rock, or metal. If you added these simple styles to the app's sonic palate, I Real Pro would suddenly become a must need tool for guitar teacher's around the globe!

Best wishes! And thank you very much for this wonderful application. And more than anything else, keep up the good work folks at I Real Pro!