Chord request: Diminished Major 7th

[CyrilleB]

As many tunes uses this type of chord, it would be nice to have it in IRP.
It's basically a diminished chord with a major 7th instead of diminished 7th (1, b3, b5, 7), so for a C dimished, that would be C, Eb, Gb, B.
It can also be noted as a B7b9/C but without the 7th (A).
Some popular standard using this type of chord: Corcovado, How insensitive (Jobim), My favorite things (Coltrane version), to name a few.

 

[Guitar]

Yeah, good idea! Even in pop songs you see this chord being used.

 

[Gatto]

Yes, it should be usefull to have diminished chords with altered tensions. For example also a dim chord with b13 (e.g.: Cdim(b13)).

 

[CyrilleB]

Sure, but Cdim(b13) could easily be written as Ab7/C in IRP.

 

[Gatto]

Well, Ab7/C is something like Ab, C, Eb, Gb with C on bass.
Cdim(b13) is C, Eb Gb, Ab Bbb(A). It is not the same.
Maybe you could put Ab7/A (A, Ab, C, Eb, Gb) but it is not the same as the bass is different and the pitches will sound against a A and not a C.

 

[CyrilleB]

Oh I see, you meant C dim7(b13), not just C dim(b13). Yes, of course, that's different then.
How about an Ab7(b9)/C ?

 

[Gatto]

OK, pitches are the same. However, I think the if you force a bass note, IRP will not walk the bass anymore and you get the same pitch on bass till next chord.
Viceversa, you should have bass walking over a diminished scale (hopefully). Moreover Ab7(b9) is an altered chord. Again I do not know how IRP will use this information for piano comping and bass walking. For sure, it is not the same as for a diminished chord.

 

[CyrilleB]

Yes of course, it's not the same. But I think this would be the closest you can get in IRP at this time.
Also to consider, is that when using slash chords with chords of 4 or more notes, IRP skips some of the top notes for polyphony reason I think, like having a CMaj7/G, IRP player would only play C/G (skipping the Maj7).

 

[Gatto]

Yes. That's why I'm crossing my fingers to have altered diminished chords.
To go back to your reply about how IRP works against chords with bass note, I already notice what you have written.
maybe, it cout be useful to have chord made up f to triads, one over the other: D/C. That is: C-E-G at the bottom, D-F#-A at top. You could easily build up altered chords and whatever you want. But this is a different request.

 

[CyrilleB]

Yes, stacking up triads would be a good idea!

 

[fsansing]

Chord addition

Please add support for diminished major seventh chords (flat 3rf, flat 5th, major 7th)

I like using this chord in "But not for me" to work with the melody at the beggings of the 2nd and 4th quarters of the form. Also the second chord of "Corcovado"

Thanks

 

[raymb1]

Chord

Would like to see a diminished triad with a major 7th added to the chord chart. Possible?

 

[CyrilleB]

Yes, please!

 

[Nola504]

We still need a Diminished Major 7th

Yes, please!

I know this is an old thread, but I'm reviving as I just ran into this problem. I think a Diminished Major 7th is a reasonable request and much needed in the app.

 

[dflat]

I know this is an old thread, but I'm reviving as I just ran into this problem. I think a Diminished Major 7th is a reasonable request and much needed in the app.

We still have this on our list, sorry. Not in the current version (v10.1)

 

[raymb1]

dim triad with major 7th

Please add support for diminished major seventh chords (flat 3rf, flat 5th, major 7th)

I like using this chord in "But not for me" to work with the melody at the beggings of the 2nd and 4th quarters of the form. Also the second chord of "Corcovado"

Thanks

Would like to renew request for this chord as I often use it.

 

[pdxdjazz]

Would like to renew request for this chord as I often use it.

Cdim maj7 = C Eb Gb B

What notes are in B/C ?

)BOB

 

[raymb1]

Wouldn't the bass notes be different i.e., C to Eb. In one chord it would be C - C sharp (Db) - Eb. In the other, C - D natural - Eb.

 

[pdxdjazz]

Wouldn't the bass notes be different i.e., C to Eb. In one chord it would be C - C sharp (Db) - Eb. In the other, C - D natural - Eb.

I think in the player, a bass note designated by a slash is pedaled. (In this case C) the "walking scale" would be up to the reader. So you agree that just from a notes-in-chord perspective the two chords contain the same notes?

Cdim maj7 = C Eb Gb B
What notes are in B/C ?

)BOB

 

[raymb1]

I think in the player, a bass note designated by a slash is pedaled. (In this case C) the "walking scale" would be up to the reader. So you agree that just from a notes-in-chord perspective the two chords contain the same notes?

)BOB

Yes to your last question,
no to a walking bass line, B/C would have a C# and C dim Maj7 would have a D natural. F# or F and A or A#. Since I'm a pianist the bass line is more important to me.