Melody and Lyrics...???

[Moon]

I have hundreds of song lyrics (with chords) in Word files and I'd like to put them in my iPad with the same format that the Real Book uses. It is brilliant. Any ideas how to do this?

 

[pdxdjazz]

.doc to irb

I have hundreds of song lyrics (with chords) in Word files and I'd like to put them in my iPad with the same format that the Real Book uses. It is brilliant. Any ideas how to do this?

No melodies
No lyrics
No "lead sheets"
Chord charts only
https://forums.irealpro.com/threads/Copyrights-and-rules&p=49.48/#post-49

Lyrics, melody, chords
https://forums.irealpro.com/threads...chords-in-iReal-Pro&p=31306.12680/#post-31306


The three elements that comprise a song are:
Chords, melody and lyrics.
I think if you publish a melody, lyrics or any two or three together and you may risk copyright infringement.

IRB only supports chord charts. Yes, it would be cool if there were separate apps that would merge and simultaneously display the separately available files without actually connecting them in violation of copyright.

I know of no easy way to translate chords over lyrics in a .doc file to chords within measures as an IRB file.

If you are willing to share chord charts to tunes not yet posted here, It would be great.

Using the editor makes it go pretty fast.
http://irealbook.net/editor/
The editor in the iPhone, Touch, Pad also works well.

)BOB

 

[dflat]

I...song lyrics (with chords) in Word files and I'd like to put them in my iPad with the same format that the Real Book uses. It is brilliant. Any ideas how to do this?

...I know of no easy way to translate chords over lyrics in a .doc file to chords within measures as an IRB file.
)BOB

The only way to add (whatever) words in iReal book is in Text, but you would have to copy/paste each individual line of words (Bob is right, no easy way...) presumably starting at the first bar of each system and use spacebars between each word to line them up with the bars/chords across that system.
(But remember please do not submit lyric content with any iReal book files to our forum because of copyright.)

However you could play around with creating PDF files from Word. Make a custom paper size proportional to the ipad dimensions, lay out your information to near the edges (perhaps), composite all the PDF pages into a single PDF (if not already) and email to yourself on your iPad. Open it in your email and save to iBooks.
It is possible to use Acrobat Pro (or similar) to create a titled bookmark for each song so iBooks can show you a table of contents of all the songs, where you tap on the song name and it appears.

 

[Moon]

Hmm. Didn't know the 2 out of 3 rule with copyrights. I'm a singing guitar player so my charts serve the lyrics and therefore would be a problem to post. The whole PDF approach is interesting and I'll look into it.
In the meantime I've use GoodReader to download the Word docs to the iPad and it's working pretty well. Nowhere near as cool as the iReal Book app but c'est la vie.
Thanks

 

[Mahalo]

I can see the legal problems, However...

this 'app' is much more than originally intended. i am starting a band and already I can use this in performance in some ways.

what seems the Next Step might be modular programs, client server is one style, where I can have MY OWN lyrics what I wrote myself in sync with the playback.

it is absurd that each band member needs two or more iPods. even one each, we need just a synch signal bar by bar somehow- then lyrics on another iPod follow the main playback, the sax has Bb chords but I have normal, and the set list needs to be linked too. with zero multitasking on iPod iPad etc... the cure would be time codes, like MIDI?

 

[Djames11]

Ok so this app is pretty awesome however doesn't really do much for me if I don't know or remember the melody plus so many great lyrics to these standards would be the ultimate app for musicians especially young musicians with an app like this including lyrics, melody and possible interesting background info on song by flipping page like in iBooks etc, When will we be seeing this???LOL.....

 

[dflat]

...however doesn't really do much for me if I don't know or remember the melody plus so many great lyrics to these standards ...

Obviously there are copyright, legal issues if we include melody and lyrics and associated costs of maintaining this with all the different publishers and copyright holders.
iReal book currently provides transposable chord charts with Player facility.
You might find this thread interesting:
http://forums.irealbook.net/showthread.php?t=1124

However we are aware of users needing melody/lyrics. We are continually evaluating iReal book's features and direction.

 

[B3rNz]

How about putting in an option where people can put the melody in themselves, then we can input and there shouldn't be any copyright issues there should there?

 

[thanasis29]

How about putting in an option where people can put the melody in themselves, then we can input and there shouldn't be any copyright issues there should there?

I totally agree.....I understand there are copyright issues, however if the option to input your own melody and lyrics are set in the ireal book software settings.....I don't believe you are breaking any laws or copyrights. You are just giving the buyers more options and letting them be in control of the lyrics and melody input.

This would be a huge feature, especially when you are writing your original songs and want to input your melodies, chord changes and lyrics and carry them with you at gigs and in the studio.

Please add melody and lyric input as an option during the next update.

Thanks,
Thanasi

 

[Saxjax]

yesyesyes

that would be fantastic

 

[Philmallet]

I put text in a song, moved it up with the arrow, leaving me room for another line of text. How do I add the additional text under the first line? Massimo, I love this app. Looking forward to the looping capability in the update.

 

[pdxdjazz]

I put text in a song, moved it up with the arrow, leaving me room for another line of text. How do I add the additional text under the first line? Massimo, I love this app. Looking forward to the looping capability in the update.

As far as I know, the current app only provides for a single line of text which can be adjusted vertically on the staff.
There is no "return" function for multiple lines.
The closest alternative would be to add text near the bottom of a measure and raise the text on the measure below to near the top of that measure thus giving the appearance of two lines.

Text in this app was clearly never designed for lyrics, rather for brief instructions and player notes.

It would be useful to some, if the irb app could be "layered" with other applications on larger format screens so multiple apps could be displayed in the same space line by line. That's not currently available.

If you need traditional lead-sheets, irb probably isn't your best choice.

If you want the BEST small-format, instantly transposable, "pocket-changes" AND practice tool with a great player feature, you've found it!

)BOB

 

[diatonic]

Massimo, is the idea for lyrics and melody a non starter due to legal issues, or will it be plausible with the changes you are making? We might take into consideration the copyright issues Massimo is already dealing with when discussing melody and lyrics on the forums. I hope the lawyers are not reading this.

 

[Philmallet]

Thx for input. Please note that I was talking about text in my message. As well, I was talking about a song of my own creation. My message should have no interest to anyone concerned about copyright issues.

 

[dflat]

I put text in a song, moved it up with the arrow, leaving me room for another line of text. How do I add the additional text under the first line?

Hello Phil,
As Bob commented, there is no additional lines within (below) a staff text line for lyrics as you want. Adding on from his suggestion, you can simulate a 3 line text by leaving the first system's text where it is, the second system's text up halfway, and the third up fully.

Another thought is related to viewing your lyrics as the iReal b plays in the background. You could save your lyrics in a PDF, then use a PDF viewer. See:

http://forums.irealbook.net/showthread.php?t=1124

We may create some kind of lyrics page facility in the future. Thanks for your question.

 

[Norman]

Rousseau MusicPad

Reading melody above chords works great! I've done this with about 40 jazz standards but can't post them because of copyright.

Merging melody (in numbered notation) directly into an existing iReal b song is something the next version of Rousseau MusicPad will do once Apple gets iReal b out of "Waiting for Review" status and testing can start.

 

[dflat]

Reading melody above chords works great!
... the next version of Rousseau MusicPad will do ....

ADMIN EDIT:
I have copied Norman's comment and post relating to melody and Rousseau MusicPad and iReal b to a separate thread here:
http://forums.irealbook.net/showthread.php?t=1574

 

[Michaelleggerie]

Yes what a brilliant idea! Or, just post them in the forums like we do the songs. Maybe posting melody without chords/lyrics is legal, but would have to somehow fit the current chord platform.

 

[tekrytor]

Nothing beats irb for OMB players, sessions and rehearsals without the band. For busking with lyrics though, I use The Chordinator (Android app), which has no player but scrolls lyrics and chords like a teleprompter and can import chordPro and txt file formats. It has no forum either, and no song collection, therefore it's more or less intended for songwriters and buskers than jazz instrumentalists.

 

[dflat]

For busking with lyrics though, I use The Chordinator (Android app), which has no player but scrolls lyrics and chords like a teleprompter and can import chordPro and txt file formats....

for iOS users, the app OnSong is good. Chords, lyrics, wireless foot pedal (Airturn for instance), transposing, chord diagrams etc. and imports various formats.
http://www.onsongapp.com/
coming out for Android also.