Ownership/Licensing for using iRp backing tracks

[Enginejenn]

Hello! First off, WOW! I’m blown away by the app. This is truly changing my life and opening up a whole new avenue in my songwriting! I am one of those people who has musical ideas constantly rolling around in my head, but unfortunately I do not have the natural ability to play instruments. My music was always trapped in my heart and my head save writing the lyrics down. So THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU! This is absolutely a game changer for me.

I’m using iRP in composing my original music. My question is, is there any ownership or licensing issues if I would want to export the MIDI and use it in my DAW for for finishing and ultimately, for release and possible sync licensing? I feel personally that I should list iRP in the credits, but I was just wondering if this would be an issue legally even though it’s an original composition. Thanks!

 

[pdxdjazz]

I’m using iRP in composing my original music. My question is, is there any ownership or licensing issues if I would want to export the MIDI and use it in my DAW for for finishing and ultimately, for release and possible sync licensing? I feel personally that I should list iRP in the credits, but I was just wondering if this would be an issue legally even though it’s an original composition. Thanks!

Here is Admin's reply to a similar question:

Thank you for asking.

Legal
You may freely use audio backing tracks created with iReal Pro for any purpose as long as you include attribution.
That means be cool and credit iReal Pro to reward all the hard work we put into this app.

We are looking forward to seeing your original charts shared here with links to your YouTube tracks and videos.

When sharing songs of your own composition, list your name as composer and if you could include a link to either an audio file or YouTube, your original chord chart would have some context for others.

Welcome!
)BOB

 

[Enginejenn]

Thank you so much! I searched like crazy before I posted and couldn’t find a thing! You can bet I’ll be giving credit for sure! This is so awesome, truly life changing for me. Wish I would have found this app years ago!

 

[pdxdjazz]

Many of us feel the same way!

FYI, I copied your post to this thread:
https://forums.irealpro.com/threads/Thank-You-iReal-pro.8442/

Don’t forget to leave a review in the App Store.

Also

I haven’t seen advertising for iReal pro anywhere....
We continue to rely entirely on users just like *you* to share this incredible tool with other musicians.
You do your part, we'll keep doing ours.

Thank you,
)BOB
.

 

[MCJazzer]

If we're posting original compositions/arrangements (or links to the audio, etc.), which area on the Forum should we post those?

 

[pdxdjazz]

If we're posting original compositions/arrangements (or links to the audio, etc.), which area on the Forum should we post those?

When sharing a song that is your own original composition, please include a link to either an audio file or YouTube so your original chord chart would have some context for others.

Only post audio and YouTube links as follows:

1.context for your own original compositions

2.when requesting a song be added to the Forums
Please review this helpful info:
https://forums.irealpro.com/threads/How-To-Search-For-Or-Request-Songs.15145/

3.to show the source of a tune you have transcribed to an iRp chart and are posting.

Don’t post random audio tracks to share or promote. (that's spam) this is not Facebook.

Where to post?

Start a new thread titled like this:
song title - composer name (you)
Include any other information in the body of the post.

Post it in the most appropriate genre Forum
Select the best choice from the five at the top of this list.

Remember, just because you prefer to play your tune as a "bossa" doesn’t make it a Brazilian song.

If you have a playlist of your original songs, you could share it in a single thread titled:
<your name> songs
and share a link to your SoundCloud, Bandcamp or youtube channel where the audio for your songs lives.
You could add more of your original songs to that thread as a reply in the future.

Your arrangements or reharms of other peoples compositions should be added the existing song discussion thread for that tune. If no song thread for that tune has been started (yet) go ahead and start it.
review the guidelines for posting charts:
https://forums.irealpro.com/threads/Guidelines-for-sharing-songs-and-playlists.22105/

Looking forward to your tunes
)BOB

 

[acosmicflamingo]

Hello Bob!

I am working on an iOS music app that will play a backing track to help musicians with hearing chord tones and the sort. However, I know even with a year of effort, I can't reproduce 1% of the quality of a backing track that iRealPro currently can. The iRealPro app is revolutionary in how it generates backing tracks that range in genres, tempos, etc., so why try and reinvent the wheel? I'd love to use exported audio files generated from iRealPro in my iOS app

Does this include commercial projects or is it confined to just personal projects? I am 99% sure that I know the answer, but I want to be 100% sure because I don't want to make assumptions here and step on iRealPro's toes. I will 1000% include 'iRealPro' in my acknowledgment page of the iOS app. Is that enough?

Thanks a bunch!
Andres

 

[pdxdjazz]

Sent by PM
Hi Andres
I have verified with Admin that you may freely use audio backing tracks created with iReal Pro for any purpose as long as you include attribution.
That means be cool and credit iReal Pro to reward all the hard work we put into this app.

Please keep me in the loop as your development proceeds.

We generally don’t “advertise or cross-promote” outside products in the forums. That said, if there's a way I can help... jus' sayin'...

You can email me directly at pdxdjazz@gmail.com

Good luck with your project.
Happy New Year
)BOB

 

[pdxdjazz]

On Jan 4, 2022, at 6:58 PM, Bob <pdxdjazz@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Andres
Cool!
Audiate sounds kinda like the”amazing slow downer”
The loop feature will be useful.
We'll keep in touch
)BOB


On Jan 4, 2022, at 6:45 PM, Cosmic Flamingo <acosmicflamingo@gmail.com> wrote:

Woohoo! Thanks Bob by the way, in case you are someone who likes to transcribe or learn songs by ear and are interested, here’s a link to an app I’m working on called “Audiate”. Right now it allows you to open YouTube videos, slow them down, and loop a section.

To download the latest update, you can open the "TestFlight" app you downloaded previously and then click "Update" next to the Audiate app. Once it's finished downloading, you're done!
In case you need it, here's the TestFlight link: https://testflight.apple.com/join/4jPPd6lE. Here's the instructions as well: http://unbouncepages.com/cosmic-flamingo-beta-instructions/.

Hey maybe you might want to be a beta tester of the Harmonize app that would feature the iRealPro tracks!

No pressure, just thought I’d share

Later Bob!
Andres

P.S. To show my appreciation, I’ll make sure beta testers of my apps will not have to pay anything when it’s available in the App Store. Also, I’ve been releasing a build every 3 months. Testers don’t have to feel pressured to tell me anything; I know everyone is busy. There are some people I know who took a year to give me feedback but I don’t harass anyone. Anyway, cheers!

On Jan 4, 2022, at 7:00 PM, Bob <pdxdjazz@gmail.com> wrote:

Excellent, I like the possibility of a link to iRp!
Looking forward to seeing your product.
Good luck.
)BOB

On Jan 4, 2022, at 4:51 PM, Cosmic Flamingo <acosmicflamingo@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Bob!

You’ve made my month with this fantastic news I’m SO happy that it will be possible to do this! I’ll absolutely give iRealPro credit. I’ve attached a demo of what the attribution would look like with another app I’m working on. I envision creating a new category called “Music” and having a cell say “iRealPro” and then have the app open up the site when pressed.

You bet I’ll be keeping you and iRealPro in the loop with the progress I’m making!

Thanks a ton Bob. Happy New Year!
Andres

Copied here just to keep everything together.
These posts remain moderated.

 

[Bobsax]

Thought I would mention that the venue will have to pay the RIAA for you to play copywritten music unless it is Public Domain.
Wondering if we should/could have a Public Domain list for users?

 

[pdxdjazz]

Thought I would mention that the venue will have to pay the RIAA for you to play copywritten music unless it is Public Domain.
Wondering if we should/could have a Public Domain list for users?

Waaaaay beyond the pervue of iRp.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain_music

Look here
https://www.pdinfo.com/

)BOB

 

[Tomtowle]

I could be wrong but I am pretty sure you can’t copyright chord progressions, hence the practice of contrafact by jazz artists.

 

[pdxdjazz]

I could be wrong but I am pretty sure you can’t copyright chord progressions, hence the practice of contrafact by jazz artists.

Yup
https://forums.irealpro.com/threads/Copyrights-and-rules&p=49.48/#post-49

)BOB